Ok, so from what ive read so far, alot of people want stranded 3, some people say it is happening some people say it isnt happening, i think this "dc" fella would be foolish to not make a stranded 3, its the only game on the lists that could be sellable,, look at minecraft, 10$ a copy, notch made over 20 milliong dollars of that game because he knows, people are willing to pay for the genre of game, he also knew that if he charged next to nothing, everyone will buy.
Before anyone says "he needs to keep it fre" blah blah blah, if he sold the game for 2$ a copy, he has the potential of making millions still, because the genre of game is loved and wanted by the public.
Imo stranded 3 could possibly be a multi million dollar venture, and from what ive seen of mods for stranded 2, it wouldnt be all that hard to make stranded 3, just use other peoples ideas, the graphics dont need to improve either they are very workable and because they arnt high detail (altho a 64 bit option would be nice) everyone can play and use the game.
I heard that Dc is making a carange contest 2, fair enough, but in an effort to keep his games free, hes lost clear sight to what will make him rich and famous.
Stranded 3 is the way to go, in all aspects, more suppoorting members, possibility of a money maker and the word of mouth being spread by 13 year olds, "ohh man you still play minecraft?.... i play stranded 3 its way better, minecraft is for noobs"
Iagree with that statement, minecraft is fun as a sandbox, but stranded has more options while playing, unfortunitly, stranded 2 has nowher near enough items and things to do, hents, stranded 3.
Ive come to understand that Dc works on these games in his free time, well what better view then making a millon dollars and having all the free time in the world to make free games, i can honesly say as a finance and welfare officer, people will pay for the product stranded 3, even if they say they wont, it comes down to how much they are paying and what they are paying for,
'quantity over quality'.
Thats all i have to say for now, i want to hear your opinion on the situaion, leave a comment below and ill get back to you.
Regards MimiICk
P.s Dont turn this into a flame war. J4x User 
Offline
Telling DC to sell games is useless, if you have something awesome and free, why did you complain about it? Reallly i don't see the point of telling DC to sell games. This is the most stupidess post i ever saw DC will sell games? He would never ever do that!
CS2D is the most awesome game and you want all DC's Free Games into games with prices thats the most stupid and useless idea!
I like Stranded II and blah blah blah
IF this happens it would be a sad day 
I'm pretty sure DC makes games because it's his hobby.
If he wanted to get some money, he would have done it from the start. One of the reasons UnrealSoftware is so popular is in fact that DC's games are free. I'm sure DC would obviously need cash in some points of his life, but he seems to prefer doing closed-source, freeware games. He even said that S3 was going to be freeware in a previous thread anyway and that he had already done some small amount of work on it. ( but obviously it isn't going to be released soon, maybe the next 3 years it will be brought into an alpha state. ) 0a User Offline
I agree with you, games must be pay to play. He cant continue this with only ads, yeah? people, quit fighting DC's fight. he can do what he wants, right? if he want to make extra money, there is NOTHING wrong with that. if he keeps his stuff free, be grateful. he decides, not us! i lol'd @ "I heard that Dc is making a carange contest 2".
Who ever told you this is a totaly retarded dumbfuck.
carnagecontest ist still in alpha, why should DC want to create a Second version of it o.O.
Also DC confirmed that he started working on S3, though nobody knows how much he has worked on it already.
Consider he only created the project file :P.
Afaik DC already has a pretty good income through the ads as he stated in some older thread. If he sold every game here, that he has already made, for a cheap price, (say 5 dollars)
Oh yes, and minecraft is currently 21$... 
He would probably not make as much money as he does with just people's donations and ad clicking.
Especially for games like cs2d, carnage contest...
Cs2d revolved entirely around multi-player, if someone had to pay to play, there would be significantly fewer people playing, and therefore there would be significantly fewer people satisfied as well. Stranded 2, if you had to pay to play, you obviously couldn't make it open source or easily editable or else people would just steal all your stuff. One of the main attractions of stranded 2 is the mod-ability of it and the people who have modified it.
If DC were to make stranded 3 pay to play, stranded 3 would undoubtedly be somewhat of a failure, there would be no mods because it couldn't be open sourced, you would only be able to pirate the game, or buy it, and who's going to pull their credit card number out for 2 dollars?
It MIGHT work, but it would be years of working on it as a full time project, and also, if you want to use minecraft, also look at the fact that minecraft is a "group" of people working on a central game. With Notch as the head.
So could he make money on it?
Probably,
Could he make more money on it by not selling it?
Most likely.
Of course, this is my own opinion... 
Icecore
Telling DC to sell games is useless, if you have something awesome and free, why did you complain about it? Reallly i don't see the point of telling DC to sell games.
= It isnt complaining, i can almost garantee if he started to charge small amounts of money for his games you WOULD buy them, exspecialy because hes getting to or way past the point where he could make a game worthy of being sold and bought by you, me and a shitload more people then these forums have on it.
renzjericho
This is the most stupidess post i ever saw DC will sell games? He would never ever do that!
CS2D is the most awesome game and you want all DC's Free Games into games with prices thats the most stupid and useless idea!
I like Stranded II and blah blah blah
IF this happens it would be a sad day
= The thing is, if you actualy go somewhere in life you will have the spare money to buy his games and you say you like stranded 2 so you most defenantly will buy S3
Habib
I'm pretty sure DC makes games because it's his hobby.
If he wanted to get some money, he would have done it from the start.
= That is a good point, but, when he first started off he was nowhere near as talented, it would have been a risk to fund a solo operation in which he can sell a product.
Who knows he could have done it to build a solid community, which in turn means, customers.
Dannydeth
One of the reasons UnrealSoftware is so popular is in fact that DC's games are free. I'm sure DC would obviously need cash in some points of his life, but he seems to prefer doing closed-source, freeware games. He even said that S3 was going to be freeware in a previous thread anyway and that he had already done some small amount of work on it. ( but obviously it isn't going to be released soon, maybe the next 3 years it will be brought into an alpha state. )
= Fair enough, i am new to the forums so im not 100% sure on what has been and hasnt been said, their is alot of differant stories to hear.
Also,
There is a much larger base of players willing to pay to play a good quality and fun game, their is nowhere near as many people willing to get a free second grade game. So meaning if he did decide to sell, the community as in "us" have already done the advertisement for him, he doesnt actualy need these people on this forum BUT in saying that he does, from what ive seen so far he makes games for his community, because it makes him happy, but it doesnt change the options he has, life is made up of choices, its only up to him.
If this doesnt make sence ill put it short, he doesnt need the forum if he decides to go "up-market" so to speak.
Partypoker
If you really want to pay for these free games,
http://www.unrealsoftware.de/donate.php
= To be honest mate, that is nothing like paying for a game, it is a donation to help progress of the game, therefor your opinion isnt valid to this conversation.
I do want to hear your opinion though, just more on the topic please.
OA
I agree with you, games must be pay to play. He cant continue this with only ads, yeah?
= Thanks mate for your thoughts. Although, i did not realise he uses advertisement's as a way to generate the money to fund his operation, is this a fact or a guess?
Call Me Fred
people, quit fighting DC's fight. he can do what he wants, right? if he want to make extra money, there is NOTHING wrong with that. if he keeps his stuff free, be grateful. he decides, not us!
= I can not agree more with this post, i never made this post for people to argue over if he should go corperate or not. This was supposed to be opinions on my thoughts, I apoligise if anyone sees this as an "attack" or an "order" on DC, it really isnt.
Roni
i lol'd @ "I heard that Dc is making a carange contest 2".
Who ever told you this is a totaly retarded dumbfuck.
carnagecontest ist still in alpha, why should DC want to create a Second version of it o.O.
Also DC confirmed that he started working on S3, though nobody knows how much he has worked on it already.
Consider he only created the project file .
Afaik DC already has a pretty good income through the ads as he stated in some older thread.
=Ok well i saw in another post that he was in creation of a second, i think someone might have chose the wrong words to use in their thread so i miss read it.
Its good to hear he is actualy making a S3, that doesnt change the fact he has several markets he could dive into.
I did see someone say about ads in this same hread, wasnt sure if it was true, now i know. I think although ads are an income, he has better options, sponsors being an option.
== Heres my thoughts and views of the overal thread ==
The point of this hole thread, was to hear opinions, as ive said previously, DC is his own person, he has his own choices. By creating this post i am trying to make more optons for him to see, i was anticipating alot more "unselfish" (so to say) responses to be honest, Yes you get te games for free, but DC would work his ass off, one mention of a game costing money and we have riot break lose.
I think that selling a game or a game title is worth the loss off a few community members, nobody will be "sad" and if you are, you can fix it by spending money. Its how the world works, money.
Also,
After reading a few comments in this thread and a few others, i think that DC needs to have a more solid income he needs to find a sponsor, there is many options, company names, youtube partners or even sale of royaltys.
With a more solid income, a more solid community comes with it, exspecialy if you had a youtube partner as a sponsor, that is free advertisement, aswell as free website advertisement.
I want to know what you guys think of not only my replies but my overall views.
Regards MimiICk
EDIT Ok, so i just read lionhearts? please forgive me if im wrong in edit mode i cant see previous comments, First of all, up until about half way through minecraft alpha, Notch was solo, he made his first million dollars on the alpha game alone, he sold for $10EU, he then put it to $13EU then on beta release he went to $17EU and then to $21EU, so he did infact make the game by himself AND make a million dollars at 10$ a game.
Second, I value your opinion, but you are indeed wrong, to create a constant flow of money through a advertisment based operation, you need thousands of peple to cross past your website, the advertisement takes the ip you logged to the website with, then doesnt register it again, so he only gets paid once per person, i know this because ive ran or helped ran multiple website in the past. The idea that he will make more money by not selling is a foolish one, if he releases S3 in a beta version (like minecraft,which ive come to beleive is open source) he can sell the game for a X%
and as he does upfdates it wll put burnt copys or "ripped" coppies out of date, if he made an inbuilt updating system, he could easly make it non accesable therfor, eliminating anyone who wants a free ride.
I know people today who have bought minecraft, even after getting it for free, purley because of the fun factor, the update factor, the simplicity factor.
If anything selling his products would strentghen the company as a hole, in the markets and in the gaming society. edited 1×, last 08.06.11 12:03:32 pm
But you see, Stranded 3 won't be a so called 'second-quality' game. He is using Ogre3D for the graphics engine, that engine is AMAZING (!!!), quite literally. It can render 3D waves. How cool is that?
I am being quite serious as to the community thing. Freeware games have a bigger, better community. ( apart from the fact that it tends to bring in very young children who can barely walk/talk. )
Try and compare us to the Minecraft community, and you will see the* major difference. ( but I'm talking about the heavy weights, not just the guy who plays Stranded every now and again versus the person who bought Minecraft the other day but doesn't like it that much. )
EDIT2: and also, he would appear to get some pretty good ad revenue as well:
http://www.sitelogic.info/site/cs2d.com mimiick-
lol i wasn't talking to you. i am all for putting ideas out into the open. i was talking mainly to the people who are saying "he should!" "he shouldn't!" the decision is his to make. I cannot stop hating this thread. Why dc should sells the his games? because he need money for make more games, but if this is true. I mean if he realy need money he just can make Donation page like unrealsoftware users can donate to DC. USGN is popular, because DC makes very good games and they are free. years ago i was fucked cs 1.6 freak, then when i was in google and searching mod for 1.6 and find the cs2d. I was thinking this game for noobs "2D" haha what good game will be a 2D realy i need to try it. Then its start i tried it new worlds starts. Now i think Cs2d is best 2d game i ever seem.
Good work dc. I like your all games(mmm... ok ok i hate only Minigolf Madness and CC) 
Glix has written
I mean if he realy need money he just can make Donation page like unrealsoftware users can donate to DC.
I don't know if I understood this well, he should make one? If so, he already has. I agree with all people who do NOT like the idea of the games costing money, and just want to add that DC is NOT intending to make a CC 2 yet, if there isn't even a CC1. DC Admin Offline
hi, some things don't seem to be clear to some people so I'll tell you what's currently going on (and I'm trying to make it as short as possible):
Current Projects / Development
Carnage Contest currently has the highest development priority (because I want to "finish" this project) and a big update will probably be released within the next few months (the changelog is huge already). I'm not planning to make a Carnage Contest 2! That's nonsense!
Counter-Strike 2D is currently my second priority game due to it's large community. I continue to fix and upgrade it.
Stranded III development has started. It will be my first big C++ game and it uses the Ogre3D graphics engine. Stranded III will become my first priority project as soon as Carnage Contest is "finished" (scheduled for this year - but I already scheduled it for last year so this doesn't mean much). I currently have not much time to work on it.
Why Carnage Contest 1st Priority?
It's (from an economical point of view) insane to work on Carnage Contest because nearly nobody plays it. I still work on it because I simply love it and I'm sure that many people would appreciate it if they would know it. Also I'm someone who wants to finish his work.
Selling Games
I thought about that of course. I currently don't want to do that though because:
it's still just a hobby
I would want to deliver a higher quality for commercial games
Ad-model works fine for the moment
Ads
Yeah there are ads. Check out www.CS2D.com or the download page at this website (disable ad block plus). My websites currently do have over thousand individual visitors per day and the income generated by advertisements is motivating enough to keep working on the games (please don't ask for numbers).
Stranded III
I'm aware of the fact that sandbox games are currently "in" and have many fans. I also know that Stranded has much more fans than Carnage Contest (and also much less than CS2D). You really don't have to tell me that.
I actually can't wait to put more time into Stranded III DC , I clicked on evry add! Admin/mod comment
yeah please DO NOT do that - unless you are REALLY interested in the advertised thingy. Carnage Contest is awesome. Never saw a multiplayer- worms game. I love Carnage Contest, but back on topic.
I hope Stranded 3 will be released soon, because I'm mastered at Stranded 2 (it still have some bugs, I found them)
CS2D must be updated too, but I agree with DC. Carnage Contest must be finished first.
I hope I will get a PC soon 
, because I will play Stranded 3 much for sure. 
Projects 
Make Stranded III
1 
Make Stranded III